Bollocks to Brexit

[Regulator]

Jacob Rees-Mogg gets pwnd by the Speaker:

[Joan]

He is still a preening popinjay.

He's the kind of preening popinjay we need right now.

<wanders off to find a lover I can convince to shout "ORDER" at just the right moment>

[LowlifeDes]

He's the kind of preening popinjay we need right now.

He certainly is but still a preening popinjay though.

[LowlifeDes]

<wanders off to find a lover I can convince to shout "ORDER" at just the right moment>

That doesn't sound as though it should be a deal breaker.

[Regulator]

He certainly is but still a preening popinjay though.

You’re just jealous of his ties...

[LowlifeDes]

I wonder what the reaction would be if the EU response is to say that they are happy to grant an extension, for a referendum. A binding one with no disenfranchisement of EU citizens who live, work, and pay taxes in the UK, and scrutinised by an external body.

[Regulator]

There's a nice ditch in the park. I shall have to take a photo and tweet it to BoJo...

[Mister Paul]

So how safe do people think we are from no deal next week now?

[Joan]

I wonder what the reaction would be if the EU response is to say that they are happy to grant an extension, for a referendum. A binding one with no disenfranchisement of EU citizens who live, work, and pay taxes in the UK, and scrutinised by an external body.

That would be nice (adding enfranchisement for UK residents abroad), but surely Boris would just say, "thanks, but no thanks"?

[Greg]

So how safe do people think we are from no deal next week now?

The EU wont let us.

Thoughts forming regarding potential tipping point for the attitudes against immigration hearing the tragic news coming from Essex. Not sure though.

[Regulator]

I wonder what the reaction would be if the EU response is to say that they are happy to grant an extension, for a referendum. A binding one with no disenfranchisement of EU citizens who live, work, and pay taxes in the UK, and scrutinised by an external body.

Guy Verhofstadt’s recent comment to the European Parliament were very clear around the issue of EU citizens in the UK. The Government is likely to be forced to change its approach if it wants EU sign off of the deal.

[JohnToo]

There's a nice ditch in the park. I shall have to take a photo and tweet it to BoJo...

When Johnson went back on his word over creating a customs boarder between NI and the rest of the UK, there was, to my mind, astonishingly little reaction. That suggests to me partly that none of the rest of us care much more about NI than he and his ERG mates do, but partly that we really have entered a world where no-one expects a politician to be held to what they say any more. I predict that when we don't exit on the 31st, Johnson will suffer almost no come back for that, as long as he presents what he is doing in a way that appeals to his fan base.

[LowlifeDes]

For me, reunification of Ireland would go some way towards rescuing something out of the situation. For English Tories, the breakup of the Union looks like government for the foreseeable.

[JohnToo]

It's a slight paradox isn't it. Like probably most of us, I have little inherent sympathy for Irish Unionists, and think that a united Ireland (suitably managed transition) is the way to go. But I do think that picking up then discarding the Unionists, treating them as an entirely disposable plaything at the whim of internal Tory politics and Johnson's own ambition, showing zero understanding that the fate of NI matters, is truly shameful.

[ransos]

It's a slight paradox isn't it. Like probably most of us, I have little inherent sympathy for Irish Unionists, and think that a united Ireland (suitably managed transition) is the way to go. But I do think that picking up then discarding the Unionists, treating them as an entirely disposable plaything at the whim of internal Tory politics and Johnson's own ambition, showing zero understanding that the fate of NI matters, is truly shameful.

It is, but shameful people being treated shamefully isn't exercising me too much.

The biggest barrier to reunification is likely to be the Republic's ability to afford it. In a supreme irony, I expect that the EU will provide significant support.