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Post by Iris » 7 months ago

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Blimey. How many properties are you envisaging ending up owning?
And in all the excitement this question has gone unanswered. The answer is - eventually - one, unless there are good reasons to own more. But in the meantime UK property is still a pretty decent long-term investment for a couple with a large income, relatively modest day-to-day needs and no real need for liquidity - and if we can provide a better home for people than they'd otherwise have, so much the better.

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LowlifeDes wrote:
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If you had acknowledged the degree to which that decision had been lead by interested parties, it might have been different.
In a two-sentence howl of range composed on a phone with a hangover? Blimey - how much nuance do you expect?

The question of how much influence those interested parties actually have is an interesting question, of course. I suspect the answer is that they have more influence than they'd be willing to acknowledge - but that it's comforting for some people to believe that they have more influence than they actually do.
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Post by LowlifeDes » 7 months ago

Iris wrote:
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In a two-sentence howl of range composed on a phone with a hangover? Blimey - how much nuance do you expect?

The question of how much influence those interested parties actually have is an interesting question, of course. I suspect the answer is that they have more influence than they'd be willing to acknowledge - but that it's comforting for some people to believe that they have more influence than they actually do.
Well, that leaves further questions for discussion. What qualities were exhibited that were negative? Are they really relevant and important? Were they similarly exhibited by anyone else but not viewed as negative? Etc.
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Post by ransos » 7 months ago

Iris wrote:
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Perhaps three people made some unwarranted assumptions based on their own view of the world and their own assumptions about what I was saying? Certainly three people seem to have read some quite complicated stuff into what was a very simple howl of rage about someone who the voters of the UK decided wasn't the right person to be PM.
I took what you said at face value. No assumptions were necessary for your unequivocal statement.
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Care in the community at its finest
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Spoon nonce.
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Spoon nonce 😂
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Post by Joan » 6 months ago

"Tony Blair, the only Labour leader to have won an election in the last 45 years"

Wow.

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Post by The Real Ravenhurst » 6 months ago

Iris wrote:
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and if we can provide a better home for people than they'd otherwise have, so much the better.
:)
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Post by Sonic Budgie » 6 months ago

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Fuck it, I'm in Mexico, might stay here.

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Turns out I have to fly home today, apparently they don't need anyone to help dig the borders or drive the little shuttle buses and don't have time to teach me how to make cocktails 😢
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Post by Joan » 6 months ago

8/14

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Post by JohnToo » 6 months ago

So, who should those of us with a vote cast it for in the Labour Leadership election?

(I appreciate that there other places on the interwebs where this issue is no doubt being discussed, but I'm avoiding those...)
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Post by Regulator » 6 months ago

JohnToo wrote:
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So, who should those of us with a vote cast it for in the Labour Leadership election?

(I appreciate that there other places on the interwebs where this issue is no doubt being discussed, but I'm avoiding those...)
The problem is that, apart from Starmer, there are very few candidates with the gravitas, experience, nous and intellect to take on the role.

Rebecca Long-Bailey (who I know from an NHS contracting perspective), Clive Lewis and Jess Phillips simply aren't up to it at this time (and I have significant doubts generally about Jess Phillips). Give them another couple of Parliaments and they might well be ready for the challenge.

Emily Thornberry has experience but not the nous needed, as her recent comments have clearly demonstrated.

I think the two possible candidates with real potential are:

- Keir Starmer (although I have reservations)
- Lisa Nandy (an outside chance but with an interesting background outside of politics that could stand her in good stead)
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