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Post by The Real Ravenhurst » 3 weeks ago

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And predictable safe smug satire like Coldwar Steve, Steve Bell and that shouty sweary man whose videos sometimes pop up on here?
I take it you're not bothered about borrowing my CWS jigsaw then? I definitely wouldn't describe Bell as either smug or safe - the Guardian's been spiking or apologising for his cartoons on and off for years, but it's to their credit that they have continued to publish his work. I'm guessing the other person you're referring to is Jonathan Pie, in which case we are in agreement - I do find him both smug and safe. I thought it was amusing the first few times I saw it but it quicky became tiresome.
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Post by Joan » 3 weeks ago

It just seems like classic whataboutism to me, which is confusing as I am used to seeing it only used to defend something. @@Iris, you aren't defending Deadringers, are you?
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It just seems like classic whataboutism to me, which is confusing as I am used to seeing it only used to defend something. @@Iris, you aren't defending Deadringers, are you?
It's hardly beyond the pale. It probably started off better. I thought The Public Sector Boromir Requirement gag was funny.
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It's hardly beyond the pale. It probably started off better. I thought The Public Sector Boromir Requirement gag was funny.
Whataboutism seems to last resort of the die hard fan to defend the indefensible. While I'd be surprised is Deadringers has many die hard fans, it's not indefensible. So it just strikes me as odd.
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Whataboutism seems to last resort of the die hard fan to defend the indefensible. While I'd be surprised is Deadringers has many die hard fans, it's not indefensible. So it just strikes me as odd.
I've already been responsible for introducing you to Naked Attraction. For that I am sorry. But I honestly don't think it's a problem if some folk enjoy Dead Ringers, even if I reckon it's past it. Mrs Brown's Boys, on the other hand...
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Post by Iris » 3 weeks ago

As it happens I didn't hear the Dead Ringers skits as undermining the premise of intimacy co-ordinators - which is an entirely admirable one - but as taking them for granted and riffing on what might happen if they were extended into inappropriate areas. If they'd wanted to undermine the concept they had the perfect opportunity, which I don't believe they took - they have a regular sketch based on the Northern Irish "teenagers shagging" BBC series from last year (sorry, I can't remember the name) - which itself undermines the inevitable fascination of TV producers with naked young people having sex. I enjoy Dead Ringers because it makes me laugh, which must be the primary aim of a comedy radio show - and failure to make me laugh is the main reason I've stopped listening to the News Quiz now that Andy "I'm the star" Zaltzmann has taken over.

I don't think my comments were whataboutery - I read TRR as making a definition of something she'd really rather like put out to grass, and I was observing that it was quite a subjective decision. I'll stand by my identification of Steve Bell as safe - the only reason he's still employed by the Guardian (even on a reduced basis) is because the editor, correctly judging by the letters pages after his downsizing, realised that he's got a substantial fan base who like him because he safely expresses what they are thinking.
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