Small lobbying gains or self delusion?

[ransos]

As long as that experience includes a lot of what you're asking for - getting people who don't currently do the thing to do it. The quotes from CUK literally say that is what he is looking to do.

As evidence, this is about as reliable as Tory manifesto support for the NHS.

[Iris]

It must have been, at least at some point.

Must it?

Even in the 1880s it was actively lobbying and taking action to make cycling accessible and safe for all.

https://www.cyclinguk.org/about/history ... y-timeline

[Iris]

As evidence, this is about as reliable as Tory manifesto support for the NHS.

Go on then, find some better evidence for whatever it is you are arguing for. What is it, exactly, you're arguing for, by the way?

[ransos]

Go on then, find some better evidence for whatever it is you are arguing for. What is it, exactly, you're arguing for, by the way?

It's generally up to those making a claim to provide the evidence to support it. I am arguing that the evidence you provided was of the motherhood and apple pie kind, signifying absolutely nothing.

[The Real Ravenhurst]

Must it?

Even in the 1880s it was actively lobbying and taking action to make cycling accessible and safe for all.

https://www.cyclinguk.org/about/history ... y-timeline

There's absolutely no contradiction in those two things. The point we were trying to make in Save the CTC was that effective political action requires collective bargaining over shared interests, which are emphatically not the same thing as the rather nebulous concept of 'public benefit'.

[JohnToo]

Having read the latest Cycle, I was prepared to be in a generous mood, and point out (a) that we now know that the new Interim Chief Exec is in fact not only a former London cycle commuter but a Brompton user, and (b) it featured words from Chris Juden for, I think, the first time since he was sacked. But then Chris Juden himself pops up on the CUK Forum pointing out that Richard Hallett's technical advice in the same issue to run a bike with too short a chain to cope with the large chain ring-large sprocket is (in his opinion, which, as ever, I trust) downright dangerous, and the advice on spoke breakages fails to address the likely problem.

[Rutabaga]

I'm just impressed that someone actually reads Cycle. In my house it sits on the kitchen table for weeks waiting to be read, before being put in the recycling bin during a tidy-up.

[The Real Ravenhurst]

Having read the latest Cycle, I was prepared to be in a generous mood, and point out (a) that we now know that the new Interim Chief Exec is in fact not only a former London cycle commuter but a Brompton user, and (b) it featured words from Chris Juden for, I think, the first time since he was sacked. But then Chris Juden himself pops up on the CUK Forum pointing out that Richard Hallett's technical advice in the same issue to run a bike with too short a chain to cope with the large chain ring-large sprocket is (in his opinion, which, as ever, I trust) downright dangerous, and the advice on spoke breakages fails to address the likely problem.

I see 'the joys of solo cycling' is the cover feature this time. They are somewhere just behind The Archers when it comes to catching up with Coronavirus.

[Iris]

I'm often in the Rutabaga camp too, but I will extract it from its envelope.

On the timeline thing, print magazines do often have a long leadin. An article I wrote in the second half of March for my professional mag was finally published a couple of days ago.

[JohnToo]

As I am frequently (and unrepentantly) critical of CUK, can I just say that I actually thought Duncan Dollimore's letter to the Humber Bridge Authority was very good.