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Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:57 am
by Iris
I presume, by the way, that everyone has read the John Crace sketch skewering CUK. I think he's nailed it.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ed-to-walk

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:14 am
by Rutabaga
ransos wrote:
5 years ago
“It is obviously disappointing that this candidate has chosen to pledge allegiance to another party - he has let down his fellow candidates and activists.”
:))

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:01 am
by ransos
Iris wrote:
5 years ago
If only Labour were, too. Milne represents all that's wrong both with Corbynite Labour and with political spin doctoring.
You used a simple act of hypocrisy from a Tinger to pivot to criticism of the Labour Party. Congratulations! You've passed the interview.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm
by Regulator
Iris wrote:
5 years ago
Will you let us know if you see *any* posters in windows?

The Labour leaflet is equally terrible - the only reference to the fact it's an EU election is the claim that Labour will get "A better deal with Europe". Which is so much fantasy. At least the Lib Dems and the Greens are nailing their colours to the mast and recognise that this isn't a national election.

You mean other than the very prominent straplines "Stand with us: labour.org.uk/europeanelections" and the text "Election for the European Parliament" that appears on the leaflet?

It's not the greatest leaflet I've seen - but at least it give the relevant candidates details - unlike the drivel from TINGE.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:24 pm
by Iris
Regulator wrote:
5 years ago
You mean other than the very prominent straplines "Stand with us: labour.org.uk/europeanelections" and the text "Election for the European Parliament" that appears on the leaflet?
Neither of which anyone will read.

It's a general election leaflet repurposed.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm
by Iris
ransos wrote:
5 years ago
You used a simple act of hypocrisy from a Tinger to pivot to criticism of the Labour Party. Congratulations! You've passed the interview.
And if I'd been interacting with a Tory I'd have pivoted to criticism of the Tory party, and I probably could have managed the same thing with most other parties.

There's a quote about motes and beams.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:37 pm
by ransos
Iris wrote:
5 years ago
And if I'd been interacting with a Tory I'd have pivoted to criticism of the Tory party, and I probably could have managed the same thing with most other parties.
I'm not doubting your talent for whataboutery.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:52 pm
by Iris
ransos wrote:
5 years ago
I'm not doubting your talent for whataboutery.
Nor I yours.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:55 pm
by Joan
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Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:59 pm
by ransos
Iris wrote:
5 years ago
Nor I yours.
As a comeback, that's very slightly better than "your mum".

Anyway, as you are desperate to avoid discussing a comment by a Tinger on a thread about Tingers, I'll draw my conclusions and leave it there.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:31 pm
by Greg
Not looking good for the Tories (snig)....


Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:49 pm
by Regulator
Greg wrote:
5 years ago
Not looking good for the Tories (snig)....

I find the ‘the older you are the more likely you are to support Brexit’ bit interesting, as it’s not my personal experience.

Most of the people I know or have talked to who are pro-Brexit are in the 55-65 age range, the late baby boomers. Most of the people older than that I’ve talked to, particularly those in their 80s upwards (I walk the dog with a number of them regularly), are on the whole very pro-Europe.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:02 pm
by Rocky
Regulator wrote:
5 years ago
I find the ‘the older you are the more likely you are to support Brexit’ bit interesting, as it’s not my personal experience.

Most of the people I know or have talked to who are pro-Brexit are in the 55-65 age range, the late baby boomers. Most of the people older than that I’ve talked to, particularly those in their 80s upwards (I walk the dog with a number of them regularly), are on the whole very pro-Europe.
I know this is anecdotal. My MIL is 92 and my mum is 86 - both are very pro-Europe. They remember first hand WW2 and the awful atrocities which unfolded. They also remember the re-building of Europe and the relative peace that followed. Neither would support anything that took us back to jingoistic nationalism.

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:26 pm
by The Real Ravenhurst
ransos wrote:
5 years ago
“It is obviously disappointing that this candidate has chosen to pledge allegiance to another party - he has let down his fellow candidates and activists.”
They've got activists?!

Re: TINGE to CHANGE

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:39 pm
by Regulator
The Real Ravenhurst wrote:
5 years ago
They've got activists?!
Shai Masot and a few others from the Embassy.