Meanwhile...

[ransos]

Anyway, the first words I heard this morning were "Daddy, your face is wrinkled and your hair is grey."

HBF.

[Greg]

Anyway, the first words I heard this morning were "Daddy, your face is wrinkled and your hair is grey."

HBF.

You have a remarkably liberal family....

https://www.internetslang.com/HBF-meani ... nition.asp

[JohnToo]

What I don't understand* is why they can't just build battery stacks to store all that surplus power.

https://fpvdronereviews.com/guides/fast ... ng-drones/

Yes, those are built for speed, not battery life. But the fastest runs at over 150mph and the slowest nearly 70mph. Tracking something large which moves predictably in one dimension (if you're not in the same dimension) at those speeds is not straightforward. Add two more dimensions, take away predictability and I can begin to understand.


*Rhetoric. I don't understand, but I do understand why I don't understand.

Well, I still don’t understand, but I dare say the facts will emerge in due course.

[JohnToo]

The outrage is entirely manufactured of course, but he shouldn't have said it.

Is that a given? I am asking around my acquaintances to see if “stupid woman” is regarded as a particularly sexist insult or just a general purpose insult, which in this case seems thoroughly justified.

[Rutabaga]

The trouble with lip-reading (which we all do to an extent) is that, like indistinct audio, we tend to interpret it based on what information we are given about it. That's why those who think he said 'Stupid woman' will have that confirmed by watching the film clip. But if you try and see it as 'Stupid people' you will see that it clearly says that as well. Jeremy has said that he said the latter, so I'll take that, thanks. But just for the record I think May is stupid and a woman, and the Tory panto was cast with stupid people.

[Iris]

Is that a given? I am asking around my acquaintances to see if “stupid woman” is regarded as a particularly sexist insult or just a general purpose insult, which in this case seems thoroughly justified.

He shouldn't have said it for the reason I've already pointed out - it made him the story.

(Edit)

Or rather, he's perfectly entitled to say it - but after so many years in parliament he should know not to say anything possibly embarrassing in the chamber* where there are cameras.

*Placeholder for obvious joke about saying embarrassing things every time he opens his mouth...

[JohnToo]

He shouldn't have said it for the reason I've already pointed out - it made him the story.

But Corbyn has achieved what he has - considerably more than most people including certainly me thought he would do - by not acquiescing in conventional wisdom as to how politics and news management work. His usp is his straight talking integrity. If he had indeed said “stupid woman” (which I agree with others he probably didn’t), he could have stood up and said ”yes I called her a stupid woman because to knowingly and deliberately sacrifice the future of this country for pathetic internal party squabbles, to scheme to deny our democratic processes their legitimate say over the future of the country, then to turn it all into some puerile pantomime jape is indeed stupid” - and I reckon he would have risen in public estimation.

[JohnToo]

The trouble with lip-reading (which we all do to an extent) is that, like indistinct audio, we tend to interpret it based on what information we are given about it. That's why those who think he said 'Stupid woman' will have that confirmed by watching the film clip. But if you try and see it as 'Stupid people' you will see that it clearly says that as well. Jeremy has said that he said the latter, so I'll take that, thanks. But just for the record I think May is stupid and a woman, and the Tory panto was cast with stupid people.

You are in a better place to judge these things than me - do you think “stupid woman” would be a significantly worse thing to have said than “stupid people”?

[Rutabaga]

But Corbyn has achieved what he has - considerably more than most people including certainly me thought he would do - by not acquiescing in conventional wisdom as to how politics and news management work. His usp is his straight talking integrity. If he had indeed said “stupid woman” (which I agree with others he probably didn’t), he could have stood up and said ”yes I called her a stupid woman because to knowingly and deliberately sacrifice the future of this country for pathetic internal party squabbles, to scheme to deny our democratic processes their legitimate say over the future of the country, then to turn it all into some puerile pantomime jape is indeed stupid” - and I reckon he would have risen in public estimation.

[Rutabaga]

You are in a better place to judge these things than me - do you think “stupid woman” would be a significantly worse thing to have said than “stupid people”?

I don't really see why I am in a better place than you to have an opinion about that, and in any case I think it's irrelevant.

[ransos]

Is that a given? I am asking around my acquaintances to see if “stupid woman” is regarded as a particularly sexist insult or just a general purpose insult, which in this case seems thoroughly justified.

He prides himself on rising above political abuse, which is what this was. It was also unparliamentary, I think.

[Iris]

His usp is his straight talking integrity.

He prides himself on rising above political abuse, which is what this was. It was also unparliamentary, I think.

Both his "USP" and "What he prides himself on" are part of his branding. As I believe I might have observed before, I think there's a distinct gap - and has always been a distinct gap - between his current branding and his authentic reality. If, as J suggested, he'd come out and said that May is a bloody idiot that would have been on-brand but totally inauthentic.

[Rutabaga]

Doesn't this discussion really belong in another section, rather than the equivalent of Mundane News?

[ransos]

Doesn't this discussion really belong in another section, rather than the equivalent of Mundane News?

I guess that depends on whether or not we want discussions to follow the CC model of categorization.

[Greg]

I dont think it matters as long as it keeps flowing. Quite like the postmodern free flow format.