Bollocks to Brexit

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Post by Iris » 7 years ago

"Prime Minister, I am disappointed to observe that you have invited the convenor of a non party group as well as the leaders of recognised parties. Nevertheless it is important that all groups in parliament work together for the good of the country. All the people around the table with the exception of you support the will of the commons, which absolutely rejects the treaty you have negotiated and rejects the chaos of a no-deal Brexit. We look to you to show leadership and put party differences to one side. If you do that we and our MPs will work to find a solution that respects the will of Parliament."

As Des astutely implies, 10 more defections from the Tories and there's a Labour led coalition government.
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Post by Regulator » 7 years ago

What's not being (widely) reported about Corbyn's supposed walk-out was that he actually spent 20 minutes with May, one-to-one.
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Post by ransos » 7 years ago

Iris wrote:
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"Prime Minister, I am disappointed to observe that you have invited the convenor of a non party group as well as the leaders of recognised parties. Nevertheless it is important that all groups in parliament work together for the good of the country. All the people around the table with the exception of you support the will of the commons, which absolutely rejects the treaty you have negotiated and rejects the chaos of a no-deal Brexit. We look to you to show leadership and put party differences to one side. If you do that we and our MPs will work to find a solution that respects the will of Parliament."

As Des astutely implies, 10 more defections from the Tories and there's a Labour led coalition government.
That strikes me as exceptionally naive. If there's one thing we know about May, it's that she has no interest in finding common ground with the other parties. Hence an invite purely for show, and some petty politicking aimed at Corbyn.

I'm undecided as to whether he should've stayed - it wasn't necessarily smart politically - but equally, it's the kind of gut reaction many of us would feel in that situation, and entirely in keeping with the reasons why he was elected leader.
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Post by Rutabaga » 7 years ago

Just what behaviour by May would actually be so unacceptable that some people would stop saying Corbyn should turn a blind eye to them then? And what behaviour by Corbyn would be enough for them to swallow their bile and say that he is doing the right thing? Jeez.
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Post by LowlifeDes » 7 years ago

Rutabaga wrote:
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Just what behaviour by May would actually be so unacceptable that some people would stop saying Corbyn should turn a blind eye to them then? And what behaviour by Corbyn would be enough for them to swallow their bile and say that he is doing the right thing? Jeez.
Like the standards of behaviour exhibited by different groups on or roads, or on internet forums, different politicians are held to different standards.
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Post by JohnToo » 7 years ago

Hopefully, we can deal with nuance successfully here, unlike some other places. I think Corbyn does indeed deserve criticism for not having stepped up better to the leadership that the situation demands. But I think his deficiencies are a whole order of magnitude less than those of May, Cameron, Johnson, etc.
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JohnToo wrote:
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Hopefully, we can deal with nuance successfully here, unlike some other places. I think Corbyn does indeed deserve criticism for not having stepped up better to the leadership that the situation demands. But I think his deficiencies are a whole order of magnitude less than those of May, Cameron, Johnson, etc.
We can but we also need to recognise that it wouldn't have made any difference. After all, even his coat is wrong.
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Post by Mister Paul » 7 years ago

The petition website has crashed. "down for maintenance". Or they've switched it off because its gone from nothing to 800000 since last night.
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Post by Regulator » 7 years ago

I’d urge anyone who can make it come to the March on Saturday in London - or to attend a local march if there is one. I think this weekend may mark a turning point...
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Post by Dunckel » 7 years ago

Mister Paul wrote:
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The petition website has crashed. "down for maintenance". Or they've switched it off because its gone from nothing to 800000 since last night.
Can I have a link please

Edit, OK, found it.

Double edit, I filled in my details but it crashed on the confirm page, currently 779,000 signatures.
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Dunckel wrote:
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Can I have a link please

Edit, OK, found it.

Double edit, I filled in my details but it crashed on the confirm page, currently 779,000 signatures.
It would be double that by now if it didn't keep on ruddy crashing :(
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Post by Dunckel » 7 years ago

Greg wrote:
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It would be double that by now if it didn't keep on ruddy crashing :(
I just tried refreshing the total, and currently it is rising by 100 signatures every 5 seconds.
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Post by Greg » 7 years ago

Dunckel wrote:
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I just tried refreshing the total, and currently it is rising by 100 signatures every 5 seconds.
I've shared the link to my FB page , its the first time I've posted to FB in over 4 years.
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Post by Rocky » 7 years ago

Greg wrote:
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I've shared the link to my FB page , its the first time I've posted to FB in over 4 years.
I've shared the link with my three followers on Twitter (albeit one is a Swiss citizen).
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Post by Greg » 7 years ago

Rocky wrote:
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I've shared the link with my three followers on Twitter (albeit one is a Swiss citizen).
Such is the magnitude of my comeback, I've managed to generate 2 likes from my 160-ish 'friends'. (One of them is probably also Swiss).
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