Bollocks to Brexit
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"Prime Minister, I am disappointed to observe that you have invited the convenor of a non party group as well as the leaders of recognised parties. Nevertheless it is important that all groups in parliament work together for the good of the country. All the people around the table with the exception of you support the will of the commons, which absolutely rejects the treaty you have negotiated and rejects the chaos of a no-deal Brexit. We look to you to show leadership and put party differences to one side. If you do that we and our MPs will work to find a solution that respects the will of Parliament."
As Des astutely implies, 10 more defections from the Tories and there's a Labour led coalition government.
As Des astutely implies, 10 more defections from the Tories and there's a Labour led coalition government.
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What's not being (widely) reported about Corbyn's supposed walk-out was that he actually spent 20 minutes with May, one-to-one.
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That strikes me as exceptionally naive. If there's one thing we know about May, it's that she has no interest in finding common ground with the other parties. Hence an invite purely for show, and some petty politicking aimed at Corbyn.Iris wrote: ↑7 years ago"Prime Minister, I am disappointed to observe that you have invited the convenor of a non party group as well as the leaders of recognised parties. Nevertheless it is important that all groups in parliament work together for the good of the country. All the people around the table with the exception of you support the will of the commons, which absolutely rejects the treaty you have negotiated and rejects the chaos of a no-deal Brexit. We look to you to show leadership and put party differences to one side. If you do that we and our MPs will work to find a solution that respects the will of Parliament."
As Des astutely implies, 10 more defections from the Tories and there's a Labour led coalition government.
I'm undecided as to whether he should've stayed - it wasn't necessarily smart politically - but equally, it's the kind of gut reaction many of us would feel in that situation, and entirely in keeping with the reasons why he was elected leader.
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Just what behaviour by May would actually be so unacceptable that some people would stop saying Corbyn should turn a blind eye to them then? And what behaviour by Corbyn would be enough for them to swallow their bile and say that he is doing the right thing? Jeez.
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LowlifeDes
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Like the standards of behaviour exhibited by different groups on or roads, or on internet forums, different politicians are held to different standards.
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Hopefully, we can deal with nuance successfully here, unlike some other places. I think Corbyn does indeed deserve criticism for not having stepped up better to the leadership that the situation demands. But I think his deficiencies are a whole order of magnitude less than those of May, Cameron, Johnson, etc.
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LowlifeDes
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We can but we also need to recognise that it wouldn't have made any difference. After all, even his coat is wrong.JohnToo wrote: ↑7 years agoHopefully, we can deal with nuance successfully here, unlike some other places. I think Corbyn does indeed deserve criticism for not having stepped up better to the leadership that the situation demands. But I think his deficiencies are a whole order of magnitude less than those of May, Cameron, Johnson, etc.
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Mister Paul
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The petition website has crashed. "down for maintenance". Or they've switched it off because its gone from nothing to 800000 since last night.
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I’d urge anyone who can make it come to the March on Saturday in London - or to attend a local march if there is one. I think this weekend may mark a turning point...
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Can I have a link pleaseMister Paul wrote: ↑7 years agoThe petition website has crashed. "down for maintenance". Or they've switched it off because its gone from nothing to 800000 since last night.
Edit, OK, found it.
Double edit, I filled in my details but it crashed on the confirm page, currently 779,000 signatures.
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Such is the magnitude of my comeback, I've managed to generate 2 likes from my 160-ish 'friends'. (One of them is probably also Swiss).
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